Asked where he wants interest rates to be a year from now, Trump said, “1% and maybe lower than that.” He said rate cuts would help the U.S. Treasury reduce the costs of financing $30 trillion in government debt.
—The Wall Street Journal, December 12, 2025.
We are rapidly approaching banana republic territory here.
After announcing in a WSJ interview that rate cuts would help the U.S. Treasury reduce the costs of financing $30 trillion in government debt, president Trump went on to say “…I’m a smart voice and should be listened to.”
On the contrary, he is not smart, not by a long shot. And he should be ignored for the simple reason that he hasn’t got the slightest idea what he is talking about.
Consider: the inflation rate is somewhere in the neighborhood of 2.5% to 3.00%. President Trump has nevertheless embarked on a campaign to have the Fed lower overnight rates to 1% or “…maybe lower than that”. Let’s suppose that the Fed were to lower the overnight rate to 1%. Does anybody seriously believe that market rates on the long end of the market would follow? If so, why haven’t they done so already?
Let’s go to the video tape. The Fed started its current path of easing monetary policy in September 2024. Up until that point, the overnight policy rate had been set by the Fed at 5.25% to 5.5%. Today the policy rate is 3.5% to 3.75%—which is lower by 175 basis points (1.75%). And yet, market rates for Treasuries with maturities longer than 5 years are higher, not lower. See the Table below.
| Market Rate 1 | Market Rate 2 | ||
| September 2024 | December 2025 | Change | |
| Overnight Fed Funds | 5.25% — 5.50% | 3.25% — 3.5% | -1.75% |
| 3 Month T Bills | 4.61% | 3.62% | -0.99% |
| 2 Year T Notes | 4.57% | 3.52% | -1.05% |
| 5 Year T Notes | 3.48% | 3.74% | 0.26% |
| 10 Year T Notes | 3.75% | 4.19% | 0.44% |
| 30 Year Bonds | 4.10% | 4.85% | 0.75% |
* These are actual market rates
The data clearly show that longer term rates rose even though the Fed lowered the overnight Federal Funds policy rate a full 175 basis points (1.75%). And let’s not kid ourselves: people finance their housing loans on the long end, not the short end of the market. So mortgage rates have not really declined materially despite press reports about the Fed “lowering” rates.
That is not the only thing to consider. Donald J Trump wants to lower overnight interest rates below the inflation rate. What does he think the inflation rate is going to do? Inevitably the inflation rate will rise—just as it did during President Biden’s term in office. And no phony happy talk is going to change that.
When HRH Donald Trump says that financing the federal deficit will be easier with lower rates he is pulling a hand-is-quicker-than-the-eye stunt. What he really means is that by suppressing short term rates he is implicitly trying to inflate the accumulated $30 trillion debt away. And he intends to do that by selling lots of short term Treasury Bills at rates below the inflation rate.
The cost of that maneuver is a massive (but hidden) tax rise. This is for two reasons. First, because there is a de facto decrease in purchasing power that benefits the government. Second, because the government will tax nominal interest earnings even though purchasing power is declining. That is what Trump really means when he says lower rates will ease financing accumulated debt. It is a con.
Another consideration comes to the fore. It is that the interest rate that really matters is the “real rate”. That rate is defined as the nominal rate plus inflation expectations. Pushing the nominal rate down below where the market would otherwise put it, necessarily causes the real rate to rise. And central banks around the world who have been massive buyers of Treasury securities will be forced to re-evaluate their holdings.
The market however is not stupid. Prices of fixed-income securities will respond by widening the spread between short term and long term securities. That, along with rising inflation, is the price of an errant Fed policy designed to punish savers. It also includes reduced savings, reduced investment and perhaps a flight from the dollar.
So charitably speaking, maybe we should just ignore the very smart voice of Donald J Trump. Especially when he is spouting off economic nonsense, which he does with clockwork regularity.
JFB
